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Post by Sorry on Jul 6, 2004 1:17:15 GMT -5
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Not so lazy Viper
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Is it weird that the churh i go to is called MPB O.o
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Post by Not so lazy Viper on Jul 6, 2004 14:53:01 GMT -5
I think this more or less works against you. .-.
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 6, 2004 18:18:16 GMT -5
No your not giving her child the food it needs cuz of what she belives in the all things come for an animal (like milk) is wroung. I really don't believe either of you have been reading my posts thoroughly. There is nothing wrong with drinking milk, providing it is your own species
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 6, 2004 18:21:52 GMT -5
SHE WAS ABOUT TO DIE!!!! I HOPE YOU NEVER HAVE KIDS!! Cuz you'll be a terable mother! I don't want kids anyway. I already know I would be a terrible parent, though for different reasons. BTW, people, please don't let this degrade into insults and exclamations (See above quote) ... Can we at least attempt to have a reasonable argument?
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Post by Malakym on Jul 10, 2004 17:25:43 GMT -5
here's sopmething what about all those one cell aminels that you kill wend you do..just about any thing... they die in the countless millions. Plus planets are lifing thing too what about them?
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Post by Malakym on Jul 10, 2004 17:34:02 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that it's true
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Post by Fireholder on Jul 10, 2004 23:22:59 GMT -5
Im replying here to say i dont give a fuck and never will, ok, continue debating.
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Post by Malakym on Jul 11, 2004 1:21:38 GMT -5
yeah I'm quiting too it's a one sided fight any way (the onavoir side being the winner)
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Mikaru
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Post by Mikaru on Jul 11, 2004 20:41:32 GMT -5
People kill animals for food and sport, among other things. That's the way it is. Though odds are that the mere existance of your home and how it was made affected many animals that once lived where your house is or animals that somehow depended on the building materials your home is made of, like the wood, etc. Point is, we can't have many of the luxuries we have as humans without negatively affecting some animals.
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ThoughtShift
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Post by ThoughtShift on Jul 11, 2004 22:49:34 GMT -5
Mikaru, you make the point exactly. We disadvantage animals just to have a few luxuries. And if you think that's right, you have a problem.
Point is, animals are needlessly abused by humans every day. Humans are inherently cruel and indifferent towards animals because of their upbringing, typically. I would take an animal's life over a human's any day. I would have no problem saying, "Sorry bitch, but this dog is not fickle, it's loyal, and it is a lot nicer to me than you. I have to kill you."
Humans in general are the epitome of evil. You all think you're better because you can talk. Because you can work out math problems. You're not.
Blacks, jews, indians, talk whatever nonsense you want about how you're people have suffered. Maybe you have. A few years here, some of your people die, and it's over. Animals have been mistreated for centuries, before any black man was forced to pick cotton, before any jew was dismembered, before any indian was forced off his land. We force animals off their land for no reason other than we cannot stop our blatant overpopulation of this earth. We cannot stop our blatant abuse of this planet's natural resources. We are gluttons, that's all we are. We force animals to suffer for our entertainment.
So lock those black people up for another thousand years, throw all the jews into concentration camps and kick the indians out altogether. When they've suffered as long as the dog or the cat has been under the highly abusive and fickle finger of man, then they can complain. But as far as I'm concerned...cotton's ripe for the pickin'.
Malakym: You are very good at making blatantly ignorant statements.
EDIT: Viper, you said that liberals make this earth a worse place. That is very blatantly offensive and untrue. And you are very ignorant if you really think that just recently humans have harmed dogs.
That kid's parents were plain ignorant. It is very possible and very easy to keep an infant on a meatless diet and have him be as healthy as any other child.
There is NOTHING wrong with valuing an animal life over a humans. Humans are garbage. They are sentient and that is what makes most animals better than humans. Sentience makes humans shallow and deceitful. Humans, from the day they learn to speak, do not deserve to live.
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Not so lazy Viper
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Is it weird that the churh i go to is called MPB O.o
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Post by Not so lazy Viper on Jul 12, 2004 10:40:58 GMT -5
The Jew's have been suffering a long long time. The egyptians enslaved jews, and worshipped animals, or did you forget that?
You can fit the entire population of the world in texas, and give each person 30 feet of space. That's not over population, it's over staturation.
TS, I would save you, someone whose ideals make me sick, over a dog. You see, a dog may hold closer memories to me, but you have a family who will mourn you death, and who will forever miss you. The feelings of your family, is much more important than the feelings of me, a single individual. Would you do the same for someone else? Or are you so selfish as to force your twisted ideals on another human like that?
PS Humans are inherently evil. But we do change over time. By the time humans are teenagers, we aren't evil, but mostly good. Unfortunatly you closed your eyes a long time ago, and decided that you woudn't see the good humans do. And liberals have done a lot of damage to the U.S. Back when birthcontrol was legalized, divorce rates went up drastically, and then again when abortion was legalized.
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 12, 2004 16:26:15 GMT -5
Crap. I had this whole long thing typed out, and my stepmom killed it.
here's sopmething what about all those one cell aminels that you kill wend you do..just about any thing... they die in the countless millions. Plus planets are lifing thing too what about them? ~Sab~
Sab, I've been really patient with your lack of typing skills, but now you're not even coherent.
Anyway, there's a bit of a difference here. One you CAN help killing, the other you CANNOT.
People kill animals for food and sport, among other things. That's the way it is. Though odds are that the mere existance of your home and how it was made affected many animals that once lived where your house is or animals that somehow depended on the building materials your home is made of, like the wood, etc. Point is, we can't have many of the luxuries we have as humans without negatively affecting some animals. ~Mikaru~
I can't go back and prevent what people have already screwed up. I would if I could. As I've told Viper countless times, humans should go back to wherever they were before they started to infest the planet.
You can fit the entire population of the world in texas, and give each person 30 feet of space. That's not over population, it's over staturation. ~Viper~
I really highly doubt that is true.
TS, I would save you, someone whose ideals make me sick, over a dog. You see, a dog may hold closer memories to me, but you have a family who will mourn you death, and who will forever miss you. The feelings of your family, is much more important than the feelings of me, a single individual. Would you do the same for someone else? Or are you so selfish as to force your twisted ideals on another human like that? ~Viper~
I've already told you my own thoughts on that.
PS Humans are inherently evil. But we do change over time. By the time humans are teenagers, we aren't evil, but mostly good ~Viper~
So... You're saying that a small child has more sin against them than an adult? Gee, that sure does sound much more logical than anything I've been arguing.
Unfortunatly you closed your eyes a long time ago, and decided that you woudn't see the good humans do. ~Viper~
I see the good, and I know the bad now nearly cancels out the good entirely.
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Not so lazy Viper
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Is it weird that the churh i go to is called MPB O.o
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Post by Not so lazy Viper on Jul 12, 2004 19:08:14 GMT -5
You can fit the entire population of the world in texas, and give each person 30 feet of space. That's not over population, it's over staturation. ~Viper~
I really highly doubt that is true.[/quote]Texas is more the 100,000 square miles. Trust me, it' possible to fit 6 billion people with space for them.
Actually yeah, until they've been baptised.
Actually, the good out weighs the bad drastically. It's easier to find someone who would die for their friends, than to find one who would kill their friends for a few dollars.
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 13, 2004 19:30:53 GMT -5
Actually yeah, until they've been baptised. . Can't argue with religion. They won't argue back with a decent argument, so I'll drop that there. Actually, the good out weighs the bad drastically. It's easier to find someone who would die for their friends, than to find one who would kill their friends for a few dollars ...So most people like people better than money. That makes them good?
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Not so lazy Viper
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Is it weird that the churh i go to is called MPB O.o
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Post by Not so lazy Viper on Jul 13, 2004 22:16:43 GMT -5
Can't argue with religion. They won't argue back with a decent argument, so I'll drop that there. ...So most people like people better than money. That makes them good? Aparently it makes them better if they like animals over money, so yeah.
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