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Post by Lazy Li on Jul 18, 2004 20:04:23 GMT -5
This is getting boring.
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Post by Fireholder on Jul 23, 2004 15:14:08 GMT -5
Point is, animals are needlessly abused by humans every day. Humans are inherently cruel and indifferent towards animals because of their upbringing, typically. I would take an animal's life over a human's any day. I would have no problem saying, "Sorry bitch, but this dog is not fickle, it's loyal, and it is a lot nicer to me than you. I have to kill you." Plus, saving a dog over a human lowers our population just a little bit more. |
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Post by Maverick on Jul 23, 2004 15:24:52 GMT -5
The only animal that knows that it's alive, is the dolphin, any other animal would attack the mirror in front of it, while a dolphin would look at it. The dolphin is more worth saving than any other animal. Quite seriously, animals have no rights.
Now, the thing about humans, we have free will, the ability to think for ourselves, and that is generally why you have the ability to do things for yourself..why am I bothering? Thoughtshift is the most ignorant person around here.
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Post by Lazy Li on Jul 24, 2004 13:14:11 GMT -5
He is by no means ignorant, Mav. He picks the side of the fight that he thinks most people would get pissed off at just to see how many people he can get all flustered, and then laughs at them.
You're judging everything according to human standards, just as Americans judge everything to American standards. Everyone should be happy with what makes us happy, everyone should have our morals, everyone should think as we do, everyone should be like us because we are the greatest, and if you refuse to act as we do, refuse to be as we are, you will be consumed and everything will be turned against you because it is the American way.
Ever see that Star Trek episode with the robot that was God to that group of people? There was no hunger, no fear, no illness, no dying. Now there is, because the crew believed that they couldn't possibly be happy being ruled by a machine and not having sex. People are always juding everythign to their own standards. Everything is not on the same plane!
As my Math teacher once said: You cannot compare apples and oranges because they are not the same!
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Post by Maverick on Jul 27, 2004 13:43:30 GMT -5
And yet those very same people were being deprived of their free will, and yet, Star Trek is fictional, and James T. Kirk is an asshole in real life.
Also, there is the saying of "Survival of the fittest", and because of the larger brain, humans are the fittest, and that is how it will be.
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 27, 2004 18:31:03 GMT -5
And yet those very same people were being deprived of their free will, and yet, Star Trek is fictional, and James T. Kirk is an asshole in real life. Also, there is the saying of "Survival of the fittest", and because of the larger brain, humans are the fittest, and that is how it will be. ... They were forced into nothing. They chose to follow the machine. And don't you think, for that very reason, humans should be above survival of the fittest? Shouldn't they be wise enough to see the error in their ways, leave behind their mistakes, and stop taking everything out of greed? |
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Post by ThoughtShift on Jul 30, 2004 6:53:24 GMT -5
That is a very good point. We are advanced enough to feel compassion for those weaker than we are, are we not? Is that not the reason we have nursing homes, Maverick? So that the stronger among us can take care of the weaker? So, would it not make sense that the same thing hold true on a broader basis? That the stronger inhabitants of the planet take care of the weaker?
I thought you had a sense of justice? Or does that only apply to people? But if I get too far ahead in the conversation, just use that age old phrase, "Survival of the Fittest", which was never even meant to be applied here, really. Charles Darwin coined the phrase more than a hundred years ago to describe the evolutionary process.
But what you're saying is that sentient thought is what is required for justice. A dog has to know that it's rights have been violated before anyone can do anything about it. Right? Well, it doesn't. It trusts, blindly. It assumes that you won't hurt it for your own twisted pleasure. But hey, whatever you do in your free time is your business. I'd stay away from the neighbor's dog if I were you, though. They do actually press charges if you get caught. That'd be funny, though, huh? You're outside beating the fuck out of some poor dog and the cops roll up and catch you. Big man now, eh?
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Post by Maverick on Jul 30, 2004 21:16:18 GMT -5
Well, with my sense of justice, any harm you do to another human, will lead you to the business end of my katana, and I am serious.
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 31, 2004 10:03:21 GMT -5
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Post by Not so lazy Viper on Aug 5, 2004 8:56:13 GMT -5
Well, with my sense of justice, any harm you do to another human, will lead you to the business end of my katana, and I am serious. Now that makes sense. |
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Aug 5, 2004 23:16:21 GMT -5
*Laughs*
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Post by Fireholder on Aug 18, 2004 4:49:44 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that reminds me, you sent me that thing on turkeys, and i didnt say it then, but i will now, turkeys are innocent and all...but they stand out in the rain with their mouths open looking up until they drown to death.... I think that puts them pretty low on the food chain here.... And is it wrong when an animal kills another animal for food? No, because they need to eat to survive, so do we. Were animals, and we kill these animals for our food, for our survival, its not like if we let them free their going to stop dying, everything isnt lollipops and rainbows out in the big bad world. Nature is harsh, and so are the things living in it. |
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Post by Malakym on Aug 18, 2004 10:31:36 GMT -5
They really do that? I've heard about that think about turkeys beening the worlds dumbest bird.
Also nuture would kill those animals that couldn't make it, like a sea cow, I truely do not know what prupore they have, so therefor they would die out soon.
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Aug 18, 2004 17:09:38 GMT -5
What about the humans who just sit there, breathing in pollution until they get some form of cancer and die? Sounds pretty damn stupid to me.
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Post by Maverick on Aug 18, 2004 17:41:22 GMT -5
What about the humans who just sit there, breathing in pollution until they get some form of cancer and die? Sounds pretty damn stupid to me. Just about everything gives you cancer nowadays, even being in the sun can give you cancer. |
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