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Post by Steel on Jan 30, 2004 13:46:25 GMT -5
*...right up into the path of a second grenade, fired by reflex once Aries saw the Warsong's large vernier cones begin to rotate. For how fast the Gundam itself was, a skilled pilot could easily read how it would move.* *And Aries had more than skills on his side.* *Steel managed to look up at the grenade before it exploded right in front of his Gundam...* *Due to the acceleration and speed of Steel's Gundam, he flies through the debris from the explosion as the grenade explodes, using the shield to help protect himself..... The Gundam flies through the explosion area, getting dents and scraps and some gaps in the paint from the debris, but nothing too serious.....*
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Post by Angel Aries on Jan 30, 2004 14:11:44 GMT -5
(Your shield is occupied tying up the debris from the first grenade. You can't move it quick enough to avoid both the explosion and the shrapnel, and one'll do damage even if you do slip past the other.)
(And grenades are extremely vicious ordinance, especially at close range. Don't underestimate them. One could probably shred your shield. Two would mean your head unless God intervened.)
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Post by Steel on Jan 30, 2004 14:33:11 GMT -5
(Depends on the size, explosiveness of the Grenade, also, I think that I would of got past where you sent that second grenade before it went off, as, I was accelerating at something like 2-3G's.
So, it would be safe to assume, I am clear of the grenade before it blows)
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Post by Angel Aries on Jan 30, 2004 14:52:29 GMT -5
(...Uhhh, no...)
(That wouldn't work. The grenade's exploding AS YOU'RE orienting, you're blocking shrapnel from the first, which, despite the fact that you're accelerating, is still doing severe damage to your shield.)
(In fact, your acceleration would really just push your shield down, since it'd be two to three times its normal weight because of that acceleration.)
(So despite the fact that you're moving, you've still got your Gundam's face and upper body exposed to both an explosion AND shrapnel, which would result in severe damage.)
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Post by Steel on Jan 30, 2004 14:55:59 GMT -5
(You forgot that this is MS combat, A mobile Suit should be able to withstand the extra weight without a problem, as it was designed for that.....
Also, I am no n00b to how grenades work, they can take a while to go off, and they dont always work as planned. The detonation time can varey. the Shield wouldnt be destroyed either. I think you are thinking of Flak here Aries, not Grenades.)
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Gundam Retal
GM III
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Post by Gundam Retal on Jan 31, 2004 11:03:59 GMT -5
(...Uhhh, no...) (That wouldn't work. The grenade's exploding AS YOU'RE orienting, you're blocking shrapnel from the first, which, despite the fact that you're accelerating, is still doing severe damage to your shield.) Ok, but here's the problem with that, Aries, what you're saying would be totally true but for one thing: your first grenade was set to detonate at a certain distance, which was just behind Van's suit. Since you never posted that you adjusted the grenade to detonate by proximity or at any lesser range, it will not explode until it traveled to said distance. Which means what, exactly? Aries, he's still moving at high speeds, allowing him to clear the explosion. And unless I've misread something, I remember reading in one of Van's posts that he rolled his suit forward before boosting off to the left, which means he would be laying horizontal or at least not straight vertical. Because the first explosion occured above and behind him, that means his shield is held behind him. It's size is enough to cover the rest. Due to his own acceleration, as you yourself pointed out, Aries, this would make his sheild swing out to the right, but because of momentum of such a large object, and the explosive force of the explosion to which you are again referring to yourself, this would have the net effect of pushing Van's sheild forward again, especially at close range, Aries. As you pointed out, they are very powerful munitions in close quarters. To swing the shield forward, all he'd have to do is move the arm as normal. And by this statement, you confirm what I was saying above. His upper body and head would in fact be pointed towards you, and in fact that one second it would Van to bring his shield to bear would result in damage, but not heavy damage. You have to remember, he's moving AWAY from the shrapnel at 2 or 3 G's, severely reducing their penetration power. Even against a damaged shield, due to his Gundam's sideways motion, the shrapnel would actually end up getting deflected, because the shrapnel would be going slower than he was. Damaged? Yeah, he is. His head is fucked no matter which way you look at it. He'd probably have some vernier damage as well, maybe some penetration on his back armor, and his shield is without question a pile of slagged junk. But his front torso and arms/legs would still be intact, Aries.
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Post by Angel Aries on Feb 5, 2004 20:57:18 GMT -5
(Aries can work with that.)
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