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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 2, 2004 20:26:45 GMT -5
*drinks zam* thanks Li I hunt/ fish sometimes *Kicks Sab in the ass* Hunting is bad. ;-; ow... Time to hunt you! 8loads 12 g Shotgun* No, hunting for sport is bad. Nothing worst than killing a deer jsut to be able to say "I killed a deer". *Uses strange mind powers to melt Sab's gun* Even hunting for food is wrong. If people are going to send thousands of animals to their deaths every day so that people can eat them, why the hell does someone need to go out and kill even more? I suppose it wouldn't be so bad if everyone stopped allowing someone else to kill massive amounts of cattle for them and instead hunted for themselves, but that's not what they're doing. They're taking what they've allowed others to kill, and in addition they're killing other creatures. And yes, sport killing is one of the worst things I've ever heard of. It's right up there with little kids being encouraged to try out their new BB guns on squirrels and the fur and leather industry's cruel, yes it is the most horrible way to die you can imagine, murder of so many fellow animals so that someone can feel special by wearing their hides. It makes me absolutely sick when someone brags about all the deer they just killed and tries to pass it off as hunting for food. My God, that was right before he started grilling hamburgers to celebrate being home!!! pss most hunters are pro pertenting animals and their habits, also without things to hunt/kill them they would all over popultat and eat all their food. Is it wroung for a wolf to kill a deer?
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 2, 2004 20:29:43 GMT -5
First off, what the hell is "pro pertenting"?
Does a wolf keep thousands of fellow animals caged up for their short lives, then murder them in horrible ways (after making sure the chain continues by breeding them as much as possible in that short while) so that other animals can eat their bodies as they please, as well as going out and killing what they want to for fun?
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Post by Not so lazy Viper on Jul 2, 2004 21:42:50 GMT -5
There's actually an ant that does that. They have larvae of this insect eat honey dew, until they get plump, then they feast on them. They actualyl raise herds of them.
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 2, 2004 23:10:55 GMT -5
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Well, at least they use only what they need, and never find ways to entertain themselves with their victims. They don't have insect rodeos to abuse them until their skin is no longer attached to the muscle in most places (Yes, I know that isn't possible, but you know what I mean), or find every way they can to make their existence just a little more miserable.
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 2, 2004 23:23:49 GMT -5
A little late in the game but let me say, Alright, hunting for sport is bad, but, so many people hunt for food, and your saying thats bad aswell? If someone is starving and a deer walks along their path, OF COURSE THEIR GOING TO KILL IT, And eat it, And it seems to me, that noone is defending fish here, yet thousands of them are eaten every day, why? Because fish are fucking ugly...So stop ranting and raving about how we eat "Living things" And "Animals" Its annoying... Arguing about such trivial things and bitching and moaning about it on and on, well, since we can all speak our minds i will too, cut this shit about being nice to animals, A good majority of people are, and bitching over and over about it wont make the rest of them stop. Stop being an idiot and try to use some common sense, FH. I wasn't defending fish at the moment because my example happened to be cattle. And bitching about it WILL help. People who normally wouldn't give a fuck can be goaded into taking action because they're not left alone. And I will never, NEVER, murder another animal for myself. If I was starving, so be it. Better that I die from my lack of intelligence (If a deer can survive, so can a human if they're not stuck on being a mindless carnivore) than murder another because they're smart enough to take care of themselves and happen to wander in my direction. Things like that remind me of the blind torching the Nazis did on France. Destroying everything. Everything that went up in that blaze... Just as in every other war... Mindless, unenlightened, numb, brainless survival. I don't usually use the terms enlightened or unenlightened, but I think it fits here. Greedy, selfish killing of an innocent for themselves, just like the blind, stupid burning of everything that wasn't theirs.
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Post by Not so lazy Viper on Jul 2, 2004 23:30:03 GMT -5
Yes, greedy selfish killing.... Just like a wolf.... Wolves do it too survive, why not us? Really Li, you gotta learn that caring for humans more than animals isn't right. They may be cute, but in the end, when you choose that dog over some womans child, what are you gonna tell her? That the child was guilty of lying? The he deserved to die for that?
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 2, 2004 23:37:08 GMT -5
Really Li, you gotta learn that caring for humans more than animals isn't right. Nice, Vipe. Do try to keep your sentences straight. And you think I do this because they're cute? I would tell her that her child was guilty of being human. That his forefathers doomed him to his fate as they did us to ours. An eye for an eye. Don't misjudge me. It would make me sad. It would tear me up inside, and I would probably give myself severe injuries, but justice is what matters. I believe humans are capable of being more than they are. The human race has deteriorated so badly, I'm ashamed for us all. What happened to the enlightenment? To the arts... None of us alive today deserve a single thing from anything or anyone... It makes me sick that people still choose to be as they are... Stupid, selfish, instead of living up to their potential. Humans should be above such things as blind killing for their personal gain...
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Post by Not so lazy Viper on Jul 2, 2004 23:43:47 GMT -5
Didn't catch that...
No, no one should pay for mistakes their parents made. That's just wrong. I wouldn't go off and kill a puppy just cause it's mother bit someone. You're logic is extremely flawed.
The human race has deteriorated because of liberals. I don't think you realize this, but the world wasn't always this bad until people started pushing for a larger seperation of church and state. Religion might not be truth, but it kept people in line. That order is better than the chaos we live in now.
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Post by Malakym on Jul 3, 2004 19:45:05 GMT -5
A human is nothing more than an higher level of animal. There really isn't any differnt between a human and another animal.
As viper said, Religion does keep people in line, I think that the belive that if they did something wourng then they WILL be punshiled a billion times worst than whatever we can do to them on earth.
plus have you ever seen any other animal that would rather choose another animal over there own one of there own young? I think not.
Also there was this famly that were just like you Li. So they put there bady on an allplanet base diet, in about an week the polcie took her away arested them for child abusted since she was less than 10 pounts (she was about 4 mounths old) she was fine in her new famliy which gave her breast milk and meat.
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 4, 2004 8:44:36 GMT -5
Didn't catch that... No, no one should pay for mistakes their parents made. That's just wrong. I wouldn't go off and kill a puppy just cause it's mother bit someone. You're logic is extremely flawed. Humans abused anines long before the dog bit you, thus you have no right to kill her puppies, as it is only a small portion of the punishment humans should receive. The human race has deteriorated because of liberals. I don't think you realize this, but the world wasn't always this bad until people started pushing for a larger seperation of church and state. Religion might not be truth, but it kept people in line. That order is better than the chaos we live in now People should be able to live without religion by now. It was a beacon of light people created to help them live in their dark times, when they didn't know what might be lurking around any corner. It was held onto to give them strength against the creatures that might be out to get them; styrs, dragons, demons. Being a part of a huge group, led by an invisible, invincible power made it easier for them to go on with their lives. Now that people have a small grasp on what's really there, it is no longer necessary to function as a single group under a religious heading. Humans used to live in packs, close to eachother, for protection. As that is no longer necessary, (No one HAS to live in a city) religion, a close knit grouping of people together for their protection, should no longer be necessary. People should be able to live without, but they're too stupid to let go and survive on their own... I don't know if you're getting my point... I'm not against religion, I just think that people should be capable of living without it intruding on their everyday lives... They shouldn't depend on it so. To Mal: I heard about that. There was absolutely no reason for taking her away. Anyone can survive on a plant based diet. It pisses me off that people still think they should be in charge of everyone else's life, that they know best. "Your war is wrong, ours is right" "You have to feed your kid what we want you to feed it" "Youre government is wrong, ours it the best" So she wasn't as fat as those who have flesh forced down their throats by parents who have been brainwashed to think that they're doing what's right for their kid. So what? Everyone knows kids these days are overweight. My little brother (of his own accord, as he hates it) doesn't eat meat (he's three) and is healthy as anything. I think that weight is exaggerated, by the way. It was just someone's excuse to take someone else's kid away out of spite. XXX BTW, I'm sure they did breastfeed it. If they didn't, they're just idiots. There's nothing wrong with drinking the milk of your own species when you're a baby. Also, it horrifies me that someone would take another person's child and have the audacity to breastfeed it themselves. That makes me sick, and if I ran into the woman and found out who she was, I'd slap her really hard.
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Post by Not so lazy Viper on Jul 4, 2004 11:16:49 GMT -5
Babies need the nutrients in breast milk. Plus their stomachs can't digest solids at that age. Think of it as trying to digest a rock.
Dogs have been hunting, and attacking humans since before we domesticated them. You have to remember dogs are very territorial, and will attack if someone enters my territory. I know. My sister was going for a run one day, when a dog bit her in the leg. You also have to remember that it is only recently that humans started harming dogs. Before they were in a mutual arragnement in which we feed then, they keeps us safe and offer companionship. I remember all the dogs i had we're always happy. I would play with them as often as i could. I really think you need to think these things through Li. No one should pay for their fathers sins, or gifts. That's why slave reparations isn't the right thing to do. It's paying someone for their fathers work. It's not ethical.
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Post by Suicidal Toast on Jul 4, 2004 13:23:57 GMT -5
Babies need the nutrients in breast milk. Plus their stomachs can't digest solids at that age. Think of it as trying to digest a rock. Tell me, do you thoroughly read my posts? Dogs have been hunting, and attacking humans since before we domesticated them. You have to remember dogs are very territorial, and will attack if someone enters my territory. I know. My sister was going for a run one day, when a dog bit her in the leg. You also have to remember that it is only recently that humans started harming dogs. Before they were in a mutual arragnement in which we feed then, they keeps us safe and offer companionship. I remember all the dogs i had we're always happy. I would play with them as often as i could. I really think you need to think these things through Li. No one should pay for their fathers sins, or gifts. That's why slave reparations isn't the right thing to do. It's paying someone for their fathers work. It's not ethical. Canines would never have stayed near a group of primates unless forced to.
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Post by Malakym on Jul 4, 2004 22:41:51 GMT -5
SHE WAS ABOUT TO DIE!!!! I HOPE YOU NEVER HAVE KIDS!! Cuz you'll be a terable mother!
We too bad if that's what you think about religion still it is on the rise yet again.
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Post by Maverick on Jul 5, 2004 20:01:24 GMT -5
She'd be a terrible mother for what? Not wanting to give up her child? That's what is seen as being a bad parent? I think that would be a sign of being a good parent, just so that she won't abuse the child.
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Post by Malakym on Jul 5, 2004 22:48:26 GMT -5
No your not giving her child the food it needs cuz of what she belives in the all things come for an animal (like milk) is wroung.
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