Ace vs. Retal

[Black Ace]

*The battlefield is a large plain of grass. There is an occasional tree here and there. To the west is a large forest, and to the east, the sea. Ace stands next to the Nu Plus, waiting for his adversary*
Nu Plus and I are gonna take you out, Retal.

[Gundam Retal]

OOC: Perhaps so, Ace. But this isn't th first time I've lost, and it will probably not even be the last if I do lose. Because if you win here, today, I WILL cripple the Nu Plus, and next time, you will contend with the Endless Retaliation, and that battle, my foe, you WILL lose. Now, let's get this party started. I just kicked Libra's ass twice, I'm all but unprepared for you...

IC:

Retal and the Retaliation Gundam lands on the battlefield. It lands directly into the middle of the grassy plains, it's eyes glowing a pale blue color as it searches for it's target. Once it finds the Nu Plus, the Retaliation's eyes flash red, and the left forearm 90mm gatling opens, spitting out a ten-round burst at Ace...

[Black Ace]

*Ace brings up his shield. The bullets impact it, and don't leave scratch*
At that range, 90mm Rounds don't even leave a scratch on Gundarium Alloy. You'll have to get a lot closer than that to even have an effect.
*Ace takes out his a Beam Sabre and puts it in his left hand. He then boosts forward towards Retal*
Be blinded by the light of victory!
*Ace fires both his Spraybeams at Retal while still boosting. He then fires his Beam Rifle four times, one directly at Retal, 2 others to his left and right, and one at his Gundam's head. If he did manage to escape, there would be a price to pay*

[Gundam Retal]

OOC: Heh, you've tried this trick too many times, Ace. Time to teach you a lesson you should have learned about me from our first encounter.

IC:

Retal became blinded by the spraybeam, but knowing a followup attack was soon to come, he reacted quickly. He deployed all four fin funnels behind him, but didn't activate them. He then swung his legs forward at the same time and kicked in his thermos, the result of this, combined with a short burn of his UBP's, sent the Retaliation Gundam below all of Ace's beams, and Retal drew both penetrator rifles and combined them to form avenger mode. But he didn't fire yet, instead, he fired his thrusters again, boosting behind his fin funnels as he activated them, then opened up his beam machinecannons and began spraying beams at Ace...

"And you need to stop underestimating me! I may have lost before, but that was because I was trying to play fair! Not this time! I'm not holding back, Ace! If you want to take me down, then you are going to have to work much harder than you ever did before!" Retal shouts at his adversary as he too draws a beam saber from his shoulder and activates it...

[Black Ace]

Gundam said:

OOC: Heh, you've tried this trick too many times, Ace. Time to teach you a lesson you should have learned about me from our first encounter.

IC:

Retal became blinded by the spraybeam, but knowing a followup attack was soon to come, he reacted quickly. He deployed all four fin funnels behind him, but didn't activate them. He then swung his legs forward at the same time and kicked in his thermos, the result of this, combined with a short burn of his UBP's, sent the Retaliation Gundam below all of Ace's beams, and Retal drew both penetrator rifles and combined them to form avenger mode. But he didn't fire yet, instead, he fired his thrusters again, boosting behind his fin funnels as he activated them, then opened up his beam machinecannons and began spraying beams at Ace...

"And you need to stop underestimating me! I may have lost before, but that was because I was trying to play fair! Not this time! I'm not holding back, Ace! If you want to take me down, then you are going to have to work much harder than you ever did before!" Retal shouts at his adversary as he too draws a beam saber from his shoulder and activates it...

*Retal's funnels drop to the ground and are useless. Ace smiles*
Gravity's a bitch, isn't it? That's what helps...
*Ace is still boosting forward as the Beam come toward him. Suddenly, he cuts his thrusters and fires his forward manuevering jets, bringing the Gundam to the ground as Beams pass over it. Ace then boosts the Nu Gundam Plus back up Gundam "Alex" style*
You should have known that would happen. While you had the capability to do this all along, I am only able to now. I wanted to see how much "better" you'd become. Now I know. I have some tricks to show you as well.
*Ace turns the Beam Sabre around in his grip so that the tip would be face downward. he then brings up his Beam Rifle*
Try this trick on for size...
*The Beam Sabre extends into a Beam Javelin*
Hehehehehe... I'll see how you get out of a variation of the same attack.
*Ace boosts forward again and fires his Spraybeams again. He then fires five shots at Retal, one at the head, one on each side, ane straight at him, and a third at his feet*
Now, for the surprise.
*Ace slides his grip on the Javelin to the center and brings it up. He lets it fly Retal's torso. This would mean that even if Retal ducked, the Javelin would still go right through him. And then there were the Beams he fired...*

[Gundam Retal]

Black said:

*Retal's funnels drop to the ground and are useless. Ace smiles*
Gravity's a bitch, isn't it? That's what helps...
*Ace is still boosting forward as the Beam come toward him. Suddenly, he cuts his thrusters and fires his forward manuevering jets, bringing the Gundam to the ground as Beams pass over it. Ace then boosts the Nu Gundam Plus back up Gundam "Alex" style*
You should have known that would happen. While you had the capability to do this all along, I am only able to now. I wanted to see how much "better" you'd become. Now I know. I have some tricks to show you as well.
*Ace turns the Beam Sabre around in his grip so that the tip would be face downward. he then brings up his Beam Rifle*
Try this trick on for size...
*The Beam Sabre extends into a Beam Javelin*
Hehehehehe... I'll see how you get out of a variation of the same attack.
*Ace boosts forward again and fires his Spraybeams again. He then fires five shots at Retal, one at the head, one on each side, ane straight at him, and a third at his feet*
Now, for the surprise.
*Ace slides his grip on the Javelin to the center and brings it up. He lets it fly Retal's torso. This would mean that even if Retal ducked, the Javelin would still go right through him. And then there were the Beams he fired...*

OOC: *laughs manically*

My dear Ace, funnels cannot FLY in atmosphere, but they can still operate I-fields and their cannons. You seem to forget that....

IC:

Retal wasn't going to fall for that this time. As Ace boosted forward, Retal boosted hard left and down, rolling his suit on the ground in order to avoid the spraybeams completely. Then, as Ace fired his beams, Retal smiled and armed the avenger rifle. He took aim and fired. The wide-spread beam intercepted Ace's beams, they blasted through, of course, but Retal had given himself enough time to boost his Gundam into the air, swatting away the beam javelin with his own beam saber. Another vernier burn and the Retaliation moved over to the side so that's it's arm was facing the Nu Gundam Plus. Thus, the beams, weakened in their power, passed right by him.

Retal then opened up his 90mm forearm gatling mounted on the left arm and fired at Ace's beam javelin, trying to disable it. The other gatling opened along with the torso beam machinecannons, both of them aiming for the Nu's beam rifle, using Ace's chest as a backdrop for their fire...

[Black Ace]

Gundam said:

OOC: *laughs manically*

My dear Ace, funnels cannot FLY in atmosphere, but they can still operate I-fields and their cannons. You seem to forget that....

IC:

Retal wasn't going to fall for that this time. As Ace boosted forward, Retal boosted hard left and down, rolling his suit on the ground in order to avoid the spraybeams completely. Then, as Ace fired his beams, Retal smiled and armed the avenger rifle. He took aim and fired. The wide-spread beam intercepted Ace's beams, they blasted through, of course, but Retal had given himself enough time to boost his Gundam into the air, swatting away the beam javelin with his own beam saber. Another vernier burn and the Retaliation moved over to the side so that's it's arm was facing the Nu Gundam Plus. Thus, the beams, weakened in their power, passed right by him.

Retal then opened up his 90mm forearm gatling mounted on the left arm and fired at Ace's beam javelin, trying to disable it. The other gatling opened along with the torso beam machinecannons, both of them aiming for the Nu's beam rifle, using Ace's chest as a backdrop for their fire...

OOC: Two problems with that. A) You can't fire any weapons on your torso accurately because you're on the ground, or at least gave no indication of razing yourself. B) If I'm not mistaken, you wouldn't have enough time to 1: Pull out your Beam Sabre, 2: Boost away from that attack, 3: Roll and get back up, and 4: Launch a counter-attack with me unprepared. You may be a "Newtype", but not even Newtypes move fast enough to do all that in a second, which is pretty much the time you'd have to escape that. That time would be enough to get away, but not to attack while doing so. And, if you do say I did the same thing, you're mistaken. If you look, I prepare myself for an attack after dodging. C) Depending on which hand each is in, you'd be shooting right through your Beam Sabre or your Beam Rifle with your 90mm.

That's not much different then my attack. Try this on.
*Ace changes thruster angle on his Nu Plus, sending the once charging Gundam straight up. Retal's fire flashes by. Ace cuts the power to his back thrusters in half so that there's just enough propulsion to keep in airborn*
Always sweep with a rapid-fire weapon. Aiming at a small point on an enemy with one is never a good choice. If you sweep, you have more of a chance of hitting.
*Ace pulls out his Bazooka with his left hand, the shield covering part of it. He places his Beam Rifle on the rack in back, and takes out one of his Beam Sabres*
Let me teach by example.
*Ace fires off his Vulcans in a sweeping motion at Retal's torso, making sure to fire from end to end. He also fires a Bazooka round at Retal's feet. That way, if Retal fell and rolled, he'd be hit directly, but if he stayed standing up, the explosion would do some damage. Also, if Retal boosted, the Vulcan fire would pepper his legs*

[Gundam Retal]

OOC: Ahh...so at last you have returned. Yes, I could indeed do what I did. The fin funnels generate an beam barrier, which deflects ALL weapons fire, I recently learned. I could always fall back on that. Then there was the fact that I moved off to another location, forcing you to adjust your aim to compensate for my movement, which in turn would give me time to draw the combined rifle. Then, you fired your beams, and I fired mine. However, a spread beam would not be able to stop smaller beams totally, but they WOULD have weakened your beams and delayed their passage for that one second. You fired your beams first, THEN you hurled the javelin at me. I had plenty of time to boost up into the air. Your beams would have been deflected by mine, and with your beam javelin coming at me, and my suit now being in a side position, meaning it was perpandicular to you, as well as moving off to the side to avoid your javelin, the beams would indeed go right past it, as this movement occured WHILE THE wide beam was being fired. That one second would be all I needed to get out of the path of your beam.

As for the 90mm, yes, it was the left arm gatling that was firing at you. But remember, I never killed my thrusters. I was still going up and to the side, therefore, after your beams passed, I'm above you, and my torso is again facing towards you. Obviously, I needed to clarify that post more, but I was rushed when I posted that. That mistake of non-clairification will not happen again.

Oh, BTW, are you really so foolish that you think that attack will do anything? I'm afraid it's time to teach YOU a lesson, my friend...

IC:

Retal could only smile. This was too perfect. Ace had obviously taken leave of his senses during his small reviere...

As the vulcan fire came racing in, Retal brought up his shield to block. The round hammered dents into it, but the shield held against the onslaught. As Ace's shell was launched, Retal saw an opportunity and he took it. He kicked in the thermos, only he kicked them into maximum power, firing off the leg verniers as he did so, holding the shield out in order to still block the fire. His leg apogee motors fired in the right leg, catapulting the Gundam to the left as Retal swung the head of the Retaliation around and began blasting 60mm vulcan shells at the rocket. They missed, but it didn't matter, they weren't supposed to hit. As the Gundam sidestepped left, riding on a cushion of superheated air, the main thrusters on the backpack ignited, and the Retaliation moved forward until it was behind the Nu Gundam Plus, charging the UBP's for a thruster burn and rolling further left as it moved forward in order to avoid damage from the bazooka shell. Standing behind and below the Nu Plus, Retal only smiled as he opened up a comm link to Ace.

"Arrogance is a dangerous thing Ace. For your sake, I hope that attack was just an attempt at playing. I had expected better tactics from a pilot of your former skill. All you have shown is tricks. Please tell me that is not all you are going to show me." Retal said, smirking obviously as he racked the rifle after seperating it. Then he drew the 100mm machinegun and sprayed the entire clip, targeting the backpack, but also holding the fire on the backpack for a second, then he arced his fire straight downwards by about three meters, tracing a line of bullets to mark the Nu Plus's descent. About twenty rounds were used in that line of fire.

Retal then aimed about directly at the head of the Nu Plus and plugged off the rest of his 80 rounds of ammunition. Meanwhile, he raised the white bazooka and opened up the twin beam machinecannon mounts. He fired off two bazooka shells. One to each side of the Nu Plus, aimed about a meter below the intended location, to compensate for Ace's rate of descent. Then he raised the torso and scythed fire upon the Nu Gundam Plus from the beam machinecannons. Risking overload but not caring. He scythed fired from the torso beam machinecannons directly above and directly at the Nu Plus, a continious stream of fire. He dropped both hand weapons after empting the 100mm's clip, then he opened up both 90mm mounts and once again scythed his fire below and to the side of the Nu Gundam, insuring that no matter where Ace went, there was nothing, no weapon or system that could save him...

[Black Ace]

It's true. All I've shown you until now are tricks. The only problem is, if you are so unthreatened by my tricks, then why are you annoyed by them? Oh yes, and one problem with your attack is that I'm not falling. My thrusters are still alive and kickin', and if you ever paid any attention to detail, you'd see that I was ready for that all along. Here's a trick that I haven't shown you yet...
*Ace doubles the power to his back thrusters and leg thrusters. Rocketing him upward. At the same time, Ace fires his forward maneuvering thrusters, sending the Gundam's horizontal. The combination sends the Gundam speeding off horizantally head-first toward Retal as Retal's fire flies around it. After clearing the fire, Ace fires the forward maneuvering thrusters again, sending the Nu Plus into a slow backflip as it sails just over Retal's head*
You must have abandoned your common sense as well, Retal. That's one of the easiest tricks I know.
*Ace extends the Beam Sabre into a Beam Javelin*
Heh. If it doesn't end now, it'll end soon.
*Ace lands just behind Retal*
My tricks are still more than a match for you in Nu Plus.
*Ace stabs forward at Retal with the Beam Javelin while firing off two almost point-blank Bazooka rounds at Retal's backpack and firing his Vulans at Retal's head*

[Gundam Retal]

Black said:

*Ace doubles the power to his back thrusters and leg thrusters. Rocketing him upward. At the same time, Ace fires his forward maneuvering thrusters, sending the Gundam's horizontal. The combination sends the Gundam speeding off horizantally head-first toward Retal as Retal's fire flies around it. After clearing the fire, Ace fires the forward maneuvering thrusters again, sending the Nu Plus into a slow backflip as it sails just over Retal's head*

Retal smiled as Ace charged directly at him, knowing that now, Ace was doomed. He opened up a comm link to Ace just as his Nu Gundam Plus flipped into a horizontal position. "And had YOU, Ace, payed any attention to detail, you would've seen that I never expended my thrusters to perform my barrel roll! Welcome to Hell, I'll be your tour guide!"

As the Nu Plus charged right for him, Retal waited as he came in, burning his thrusters slightly to get them primed for a full-power burn as Ace came in above him. Then, as Ace fired off his thrusters to begin his backflip, Retal made his own move. He fired his UBP's, sending the Retaliation Gundam hurling upwards, slamming into the Nu Gundam Plus at maximum speed, just as the Nu Gundam Plus was inclined at a full vertical position above the Retaliation Gundam. The collision (there would be no way to avoid this attack, your own momentum would carry you right into it. This is simply what happens) crushed the head of the Nu Gundam Plus, shattering it's primary optics and forcing Ace to rely solely on his limited newtype senses. It also forcefully completed the Nu Plus's backflip, only this time the maneuver was barely controlled, and Retal kicked in the remaining main thrusters and verniers to bring the Retaliation down on top of the Nu Gundam Plus, using it's own mass to bodily slam it's opponent into the ground while at the same time ejecting both of the leader funnels and holding them in the Gundam's hands after dropping the beam saber, and while opening up the sole undamaged beam machinecannon mount and pumping beams into the backside of the Nu Plus from point-blank range.

The two Gundams slammed into the ground with tremendous force, and just as they did, Retal hurled both leader funnels into the ground besides the Nu Plus and engaged his thermos to push him away from the Nu Plus as he gave the funnels the command to open up and realese their plasma cloud. And from point-blank range, Ace had no chance to avoid it. As the plasma cloud enveloped the Nu Plus, Retal drew the twin rifles and combined them to form avenger mode, then he pumped off a full-power beam, tearing into the spot where the Nu Gundam Plus should now lay...

Then the Retaliation Gundam slammed into the grund, but still Retal didn' stop firing his rifle, he kept firing until either his rifle overloaded, or it ran out of power. To add more firepower, he opened up the 90mm gatlings and pumped ammo into his foe's gundarium hide...

[Black Ace]

Gundam said:

Retal smiled as Ace charged directly at him, knowing that now, Ace was doomed. He opened up a comm link to Ace just as his Nu Gundam Plus flipped into a horizontal position. "And had YOU, Ace, payed any attention to detail, you would've seen that I never expended my thrusters to perform my barrel roll! Welcome to Hell, I'll be your tour guide!"

As the Nu Plus charged right for him, Retal waited as he came in, burning his thrusters slightly to get them primed for a full-power burn as Ace came in above him. Then, as Ace fired off his thrusters to begin his backflip, Retal made his own move. He fired his UBP's, sending the Retaliation Gundam hurling upwards, slamming into the Nu Gundam Plus at maximum speed, just as the Nu Gundam Plus was inclined at a full vertical position above the Retaliation Gundam. The collision (there would be no way to avoid this attack, your own momentum would carry you right into it. This is simply what happens) crushed the head of the Nu Gundam Plus, shattering it's primary optics and forcing Ace to rely solely on his limited newtype senses. It also forcefully completed the Nu Plus's backflip, only this time the maneuver was barely controlled, and Retal kicked in the remaining main thrusters and verniers to bring the Retaliation down on top of the Nu Gundam Plus, using it's own mass to bodily slam it's opponent into the ground while at the same time ejecting both of the leader funnels and holding them in the Gundam's hands after dropping the beam saber, and while opening up the sole undamaged beam machinecannon mount and pumping beams into the backside of the Nu Plus from point-blank range.

The two Gundams slammed into the ground with tremendous force, and just as they did, Retal hurled both leader funnels into the ground besides the Nu Plus and engaged his thermos to push him away from the Nu Plus as he gave the funnels the command to open up and realese their plasma cloud. And from point-blank range, Ace had no chance to avoid it. As the plasma cloud enveloped the Nu Plus, Retal drew the twin rifles and combined them to form avenger mode, then he pumped off a full-power beam, tearing into the spot where the Nu Gundam Plus should now lay...

Then the Retaliation Gundam slammed into the grund, but still Retal didn' stop firing his rifle, he kept firing until either his rifle overloaded, or it ran out of power. To add more firepower, he opened up the 90mm gatlings and pumped ammo into his foe's gundarium hide...

OOC: That's impossible. I'm on the ground. Behind you. With a Beam Javelin and a Hyper Bazooka. Both at your back. How could you knock me out of the air if I'm behind you and on the ground? Can you please verify how I suddenly came back into the air and did another flip? Or did you just skip the part about me landing and launching my own attack all-together?

[Gundam Retal]

Black said:

OOC: That's impossible. I'm on the ground. Behind you. With a Beam Javelin and a Hyper Bazooka. Both at your back. How could you knock me out of the air if I'm behind you and on the ground? Can you please verify how I suddenly came back into the air and did another flip? Or did you just skip the part about me landing and launching my own attack all-together?

OOC: I launched my attack BEFORE you landed, Ace. I had planned exactly for your move. I'm not letting you perform such a trick.

My thrusters were still charged, as you moved FORWARD, then were positioned directly ABOVE me and doing your flipping maneuver, THAT'S when I moved.

[Black Ace]

OOC: The problem with that is: I already did it. I was just above you for a split second. The whole thing wouldn't even have lasted three. You see, when I said a slow flip, I mean I was flipping slowly in comparison to how fast I traveling backward. I never slowed down, stayed above your head, and then landed. It was all one smooth maneuver. Also, if you can, I could do this:

*Ace senses Retal coming and puts his forward thrusters at maximum, while firing the thrusters on the back of his legs. The result caused Ace to pick up more speed in his rotation, sending him flipping just out of Retal's way, and sending Retal blasting past*
Fool.
*Ace lands on the ground*
I'm still waiting for the beatdown you promised me.
*Ace fires his Bazooka at the charging Retal*

You'd say that's totally cheap, right? I just changed my dodge and attack. Wrong. You just changed my attack. You changed it by interfering with it's order. That's illegal to do. It's equivalent to God-Posting (Modding). You can't change someone elses attack as you see fit. You totally ignored my attack and made it say what you wanted it to. It's like modifying your opponent's post so it says what you want it to say. It happened. Face it. Find a way out of it. I may have disputed some of your calls, but I went with them anyway. I didn't change your attack, I answered it exactly how you wrote it down.

[Gundam Retal]

Black said:

OOC: The problem with that is: I already did it. I was just above you for a split second. The whole thing wouldn't even have lasted three. You see, when I said a slow flip, I mean I was flipping slowly in comparison to how fast I traveling backward. I never slowed down, stayed above your head, and then landed. It was all one smooth maneuver. Also, if you can, I could do this:



You'd say that's totally cheap, right? I just changed my dodge and attack. Wrong. You just changed my attack. You changed it by interfering with it's order. That's illegal to do. It's equivalent to God-Posting (Modding). You can't change someone elses attack as you see fit. You totally ignored my attack and made it say what you wanted it to. It's like modifying your opponent's post so it says what you want it to say. It happened. Face it. Find a way out of it. I may have disputed some of your calls, but I went with them anyway. I didn't change your attack, I answered it exactly how you wrote it down.

OOC: It's not god-posting/god-modding, whatever you want to call it. The prblem with your little quoted move is called physics, Ace. Had you done that, fired off your thrusters harder to move in your BACKflip, even if you dodged my attack, that would mean that you flipped BACKWARDS, Ace. Backflip means that you flipped over a full 360-degree rotation from your starting point. You can't do that. From your horizontal position, doing so would have landed the Nu Plus flat on it's damn face.

So, ignoring THAT particular oversigh on your part, that means the best you'd be able to pull off is a 90-degree rotation, just enough to orient you vertically. But you know the problem with that, Ace? That means your landing with your back TO ME. You charged forwards, which means to perform a backflip, your legs would have to go OVER your head, then go AROUND your position in order to orient themselves towards the ground, in order for them to land as you say they did. Unless you spun in mid-air, which, if you look at your post, you never said you did, you would land with your back TO ME, thus, your attacks would be thrusting at EMPTY SPACE.

Further note:

A slow backflip would mean that you'd have to slow your forward momentum, which means swing your suit's legs around in order to bring them UP and AROUND in order to get behind me. The firing of your FORWARD maneuvering thrusters and your main backpack thrusters would greatly increase the speed of the flip as it decended to the ground. There would be no 'slow' blackflip. Plus, that one second you were hanging in the air would have been all I needed.

I answered your attack just as you posted it.

First, you thrusted TOWARDS me. I charged up my UBP's to ready for my counter move, which I had been planning to do ALL ALONG. Then you came at me from a horizontal position, then you paused above me, and THEN kicked off your forward verniers, which would have slowed you down and hung your suit in midair for a moment. THAT'S when I moved. I boosted hard up, straight up, I would have caught some part of your suit, as yours was in the beginning arc of it's backflip. I would've cought either the head, or the legs, or a part of the torso. Or I could've just slashed at your ass from midair.

I replied EXACTLY as you posted. I just didn't let you finish. But fine, Ace, you want me to counter it as you played it? Kill you anyway? Fine. But first, look at your own damn posts before you criticize mine. I'll eidt this post in about ten min.

IC- Repeated:

Retal mumbled as Ace appeared behind him, a newtype reaction and sense of danger warning him of approaching doom. As Ace came forward and raised his bazooka, Retal opened up his left-arm forearm gatling and pumped several dozen rounds into the bazooka, causing it to exlode the shell inside it (don't try and argue that I couldn't have hit it, Ace. We both know at this range I can't miss). The beam javelin stabbed deep at the Retaliation, but Retal strafed left, causing the weapon to run through the right flank of the Gundam instead of it's chest. Then vulcan fire peppered the Retaliation's head, shattering it's optics. But that didn't matter. Retal had already done what he needed to do. He thrusted forward with all available power, including the UBP's (since they were still charged, as you've disallowed my last move), ramming into the Nu Plus, since it was too close to avoid the attack. With it's free hand, the Retaliation stabbed the beam saber at the Nu Plus's chest, then opened up both beam machinecannons and pumped fire into it from point-blank range...

[Black Ace]

Gundam said:

OOC: It's not god-posting/god-modding, whatever you want to call it. The prblem with your little quoted move is called physics, Ace. Had you done that, fired off your thrusters harder to move in your BACKflip, even if you dodged my attack, that would mean that you flipped BACKWARDS, Ace. Backflip means that you flipped over a full 360-degree rotation from your starting point. You can't do that. From your horizontal position, doing so would have landed the Nu Plus flat on it's damn face.

So, ignoring THAT particular oversigh on your part, that means the best you'd be able to pull off is a 90-degree rotation, just enough to orient you vertically. But you know the problem with that, Ace? That means your landing with your back TO ME. You charged forwards, which means to perform a backflip, your legs would have to go OVER your head, then go AROUND your position in order to orient themselves towards the ground, in order for them to land as you say they did. Unless you spun in mid-air, which, if you look at your post, you never said you did, you would land with your back TO ME, thus, your attacks would be thrusting at EMPTY SPACE.

Further note:

A slow backflip would mean that you'd have to slow your forward momentum, which means swing your suit's legs around in order to bring them UP and AROUND in order to get behind me. The firing of your FORWARD maneuvering thrusters and your main backpack thrusters would greatly increase the speed of the flip as it decended to the ground. There would be no 'slow' blackflip. Plus, that one second you were hanging in the air would have been all I needed.

I answered your attack just as you posted it.

First, you thrusted TOWARDS me. I charged up my UBP's to ready for my counter move, which I had been planning to do ALL ALONG. Then you came at me from a horizontal position, then you paused above me, and THEN kicked off your forward verniers, which would have slowed you down and hung your suit in midair for a moment. THAT'S when I moved. I boosted hard up, straight up, I would have caught some part of your suit, as yours was in the beginning arc of it's backflip. I would've cought either the head, or the legs, or a part of the torso. Or I could've just slashed at your ass from midair.

I replied EXACTLY as you posted. I just didn't let you finish. But fine, Ace, you want me to counter it as you played it? Kill you anyway? Fine. But first, look at your own damn posts before you criticize mine. I'll eidt this post in about ten min.

IC- Repeated:

Retal mumbled as Ace appeared behind him, a newtype reaction and sense of danger warning him of approaching doom. As Ace came forward and raised his bazooka, Retal opened up his left-arm forearm gatling and pumped several dozen rounds into the bazooka, causing it to exlode the shell inside it (don't try and argue that I couldn't have hit it, Ace. We both know at this range I can't miss). The beam javelin stabbed deep at the Retaliation, but Retal strafed left, causing the weapon to run through the right flank of the Gundam instead of it's chest. Then vulcan fire peppered the Retaliation's head, shattering it's optics. But that didn't matter. Retal had already done what he needed to do. He thrusted forward with all available power, including the UBP's (since they were still charged, as you've disallowed my last move), ramming into the Nu Plus, since it was too close to avoid the attack. With it's free hand, the Retaliation stabbed the beam saber at the Nu Plus's chest, then opened up both beam machinecannons and pumped fire into it from point-blank range...

Okay, I think you need some clarification. I went horizontal, boosted backward, and then "flipped" backwards. It wasn't a full flip. I was afraid you'd get the impression that is was, but I didn't know what else to call it. I rotated (if my calculations are correct) 270 degrees. Not 360. Not 720. Just 270 degrees. You were behind me. That would mean that if I went horizontal like that my head would be facing you. Then, if I boosted backward and sent my Gundam rotating head-towards-heels for 270 degrees, that would bring me at a 90 degree angle to the ground, landing feet first. I didn't totally rotate. So, if you count me going horizontally, that's 360 degrees and an extended flip. And when I said slow I meant that I was rotating slower than I was going backward. That is also possible. The angle of the forward thrusters would send my body backwards, but at a different rate than what I was accelerating at. And I wouldn't stop just to fire my thrusters. Remember, an object in motion wants to stay in motion. When you exert a smaller thrust while already charging forward, your angle will change, and I admit it would slow you down a little, but also completely change your angle. That means my Gundam was moving three ways. Backwards, downwards, and rotating. The only thing that stopped both was my impact on the ground, because you can't move anymore on a larger solid object, in this case, the ground. And, because this is all so messed up, let's restart this entire God-damn fight. Totally clean when I get back, okay? I'm not using this hunk of trash again. It was a bad idea to create the Nu Plus in the first place. I'll use my Dom Tropen. Let's forget this fight existed and start a new one.