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Post by Steel on Apr 8, 2004 16:04:16 GMT -5
<Yeah, it's on. Remember when the GP02 and GP01Fb were fighting? Gato pushed up two analog controls and juiced up his saber. I'd assume most MS have the controls to do it, but it'd sap the power faster.> OOC: I havn't seen that though. So does it make the Saber more powerful in MW or make it longer/bigger?
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Post by Jimmy "The Doorman" Manae on Apr 8, 2004 16:27:11 GMT -5
<The saber kinda expanded outwards some, and got a minor boost in MW, I'd assume. Was able to cut through GP01's saber.>
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Post by Steel on Apr 9, 2004 10:25:49 GMT -5
Manae smiles, now facing his advancing prey. He locks the beam rifle onto a hardpoint in the shield and draws a saber, turning the power up just a touch. Now that they are both within Melee range, Steel swings his beam saber Accross from the right to left motion while preping his boosters.
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Post by Jimmy "The Doorman" Manae on Apr 9, 2004 15:26:55 GMT -5
Manae brings his saber to bear, catching the Regolith's easily. It'd take a great fool to not be able to parry such an easy strike. Using the close range to his advantage, Manae opens fire with his vulcans towards the sensitive connection between shoulder and thruster suite.
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Post by Steel on Apr 9, 2004 15:49:09 GMT -5
Manae brings his saber to bear, catching the Regolith's easily. It'd take a great fool to not be able to parry such an easy strike. Using the close range to his advantage, Manae opens fire with his vulcans towards the sensitive connection between shoulder and thruster suite. "He fell for it." Steel smirks, while instead of meeting Manae's Beam Saber, he instead drops his arm a little lower than the right arm of Manae's Gundam. He keeps the arm moving along to the left while moving it forwards past the Beam Saber which Manae is holding.
Meanwhile, Steel lifts his shield up to protect the left shoulder which in turn takes the burst of the Vulcan rounds.OOC: You never stated which shoulder, so I used it to my advantage.
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Post by Jimmy "The Doorman" Manae on Apr 9, 2004 16:51:07 GMT -5
<Beam arm, of course. It's a given that your sheild should already be in front of you if it's used for maneuvering. Don't try pulling that But, so be it.> Manae simply drops his own arm to stop the dropping swing. When you're using the middle of your blade to block, it takes a lot of motion to get around you. Manae sends some vulcan fire into the offending shoulder-thruster joint again.
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Post by Steel on Apr 10, 2004 3:13:40 GMT -5
<Beam arm, of course. It's a given that your sheild should already be in front of you if it's used for maneuvering. Don't try pulling that But, so be it.> Manae simply drops his own arm to stop the dropping swing. When you're using the middle of your blade to block, it takes a lot of motion to get around you. Manae sends some vulcan fire into the offending shoulder-thruster joint again.
At the same moment, his sheild drops away revealing an shoulder rotated back enough for a beam rifle to be pointing directly at the Regolith. The fired beam is shot so quickly that Manae singes the edge of his own sheild before it's fully out of the way.How the hell can you hold a shield, a Beam Rifle and a Beam Saber all at once? It would also be impossible to stop my Beam Saber, as it would go slicing into the Saber unit and hand. There is simply not enough time for you to drop and pull back your arm as it is still the same swing which you originally tried to block. All I had to do was drop the arm holding the saber a little and move it forwards while swinging it. Which would then go slicing into the arm of your Gundam or, if you tried to move it, it would go slicing into the hand. Either way, you would lose the hand. But it really confuses me how you can hold a Beam Rifle and the Shield and a Beam Saber at the same time. It doesn't mention a thing about your shield being able to be mounted on the forearm here: In fact, it doesn't even mention you being able to store the Beam Rifle at all! LOOK!
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Post by Jimmy "The Doorman" Manae on Apr 10, 2004 8:37:13 GMT -5
How the hell can you hold a shield, a Beam Rifle and a Beam Saber all at once? I'm... not. I dropped the sheild. It's a little hard for something you're holding to fall away off to the side. Let's see... You're changing a swing presumably aimed towards my shoulders or torso to one angled below my waist. Simple trig measures that at around 1.5x farther a motion, and I'd only have to move my hand a margin of that extra .5x to still block it safely. Furthermore, you wouldn't have the reaction time to make that change at speed in the first place. You can't just 'assume' you'd expect me to block, else I could simple stab into your shoulder while you swing, and you'd change your swing to get around my block. Hey, that makes sense! I dropped the sheild, damnit. It's not 'mounted' anywhere. One can let go of something resting on the ground, and it'll balance for a small amount of time before collapsing in a direction. Less time if you give it a little help in falling. Now, do you want me to list every fucking hard point on the mech or what? Seeing as the bulbous nature of most of the Physalis' armor isn't ideal for them, it only makes sense to have them in the sheild. There's enough room for a rifle or two, a bazooka, and 8 e-pacs in there. Though, I chose not to have a bazooka and only 6, as two e-pacs on points near the ground would be hard to get at.
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Post by Gundam Retal on Apr 10, 2004 9:25:11 GMT -5
Let's see... You're changing a swing presumably aimed towards my shoulders or torso to one angled below my waist. Simple trig measures that at around 1.5x farther a motion, and I'd only have to move my hand a margin of that extra .5x to still block it safely. Furthermore, you wouldn't have the reaction time to make that change at speed in the first place. You can't just 'assume' you'd expect me to block, else I could simple stab into your shoulder while you swing, and you'd change your swing to get around my block. Hey, that makes sense! *sigh* Here we go again... *whips out a chalkboard and begins correcting Manae's math* Simple trig is not applicable to such a situation. Mathmatical formulas, while they can be applied to everything, cannot accurately calculate everything. That's the first thing any good mathematician knows. Also, I don't know how the heck you pulled that number out of your head, considering that no one knows the exact distance between the shoulder and waist of the Gundam, or any MS for that matter, Manae. Estimation is not a good thing to base an arguement on. Now, the saber may or may not be blocked, depending on which of the GP02's sabers you pulled. If you pulled the right saber, then you're fucked. If you pulled the left saber, you're good and it's blocked. That's up to you, but it's totally possible for you to have blocked the saber, your incorrect trig calculations aside. But the beam rifle...come on. Look at your post, notice the huge amounts of errors contained within. Since you never mentioned you palmed the rifle, that can only mean you're firing it from within the shield, and I shouldn't have to explain the folly of that particular kind of move. And even if you try and say you have the rifle in hand, how in the hell are you accurately going to coordinate firing a rifle and counter blocking a saber you've already committed to firing while also shooting off a barrage of vulcan guns in the previous rounds, which Steel admitted blocking to, so therefore you cannot deny it happening? Answer? You can't. His swing would take about a second. For you to pull back your arm and shove the shield out of the way would mean you're taking a second's worth of concentration away from the saber. Not to mention, you'd somehow have to switch attention from the vulcans to the shield and saber. Oh, and the above points? They take into consideration the positioning, not counting the quarter-second it would take for you to pull the trigger. Even I don't attempt moves like that, Manae. One move or the other I can see happening, but both in the same motion? Even if you were a newtype and could sense the danger beforehand, you'd still have to be concentrating on two minute details at once. And if you say that you just let the shield drop manually while you blocked the saber, then fired (which I'd find a Hell of a lot more believeable) you'd have to take into account Steel bringing up his own shield to block, which due to it's sheer size, would knock your own shield backwards into your arm. Therefore, you'd just be shooting into your own shield.
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Post by Jimmy "The Doorman" Manae on Apr 10, 2004 12:17:13 GMT -5
*sigh* Here we go again... *whips out a chalkboard and begins correcting Manae's math* Simple trig is not applicable to such a situation. Mathmatical formulas, while they can be applied to everything, cannot accurately calculate everything. That's the first thing any good mathematician knows. Also, I don't know how the heck you pulled that number out of your head, considering that no one knows the exact distance between the shoulder and waist of the Gundam, or any MS for that matter, Manae. Estimation is not a good thing to base an arguement on. In the situation, you could assume he'd have to change the path of his swing by about forty-five degrees. Therefore, the distance is the square root of two longer (1.41). It's actually slightly less considering the path isn't a stright ling across, so maybe I should be more conservative and say 1.25 times farther. It sill doesn't change the situation that all I have to so is either A) Rotate my shoulder clockwise a few degrees or B) straighten my elbow and he's still blocked. Which saber I pulled means jack shit. The saber was drawn and already turned on. That would be the one thing I didn't think about.
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Post by Gundam Retal on Apr 10, 2004 12:19:44 GMT -5
It sill doesn't change the situation that all I have to so is either A) Rotate my shoulder clockwise a few degrees or B) straighten my elbow and he's still blocked. Which saber I pulled means jack shit. The saber was drawn and already turned on. True. I didn't notice that at first. So then what's going to happen? Are you going to edit your move, or just play it as is with you blocking the saber, and him blocking the vulcan rounds? Never mind, I see the edit.
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Post by Jimmy "The Doorman" Manae on Apr 10, 2004 12:20:46 GMT -5
< Points up. Already edited it.>
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Post by Steel on Apr 10, 2004 12:52:50 GMT -5
<Beam arm, of course. It's a given that your sheild should already be in front of you if it's used for maneuvering. Don't try pulling that But, so be it.> Manae simply drops his own arm to stop the dropping swing. When you're using the middle of your blade to block, it takes a lot of motion to get around you. Manae sends some vulcan fire into the offending shoulder-thruster joint again. Steel matches his Saber output to match the saber output of Manae's Gundam. Meanwhile, he moves his shield to once again block the incoming rounds.
Steel then changes the angle of his Beam Saber so he can apply force to Manae's Beam Saber, and meanwhile, fires off his right verniers to come round and pass Manae's right..
While Steel comes round to Manae's right, he opens up with a long burst from his Head Vulcans targetted at the connection point between the right shoulder and booster unit.
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Post by Jimmy "The Doorman" Manae on Apr 10, 2004 16:03:46 GMT -5
Manae smirks as he sees the Regolith begin to pull around his suit. As soon as it's past him, he opens his thrusters, boosting off at full output and out of any immediate danger, bathing his opponent in super-heated gases. A few rounds scraped his backpack, but that's not a problem.
A few red lights glare on his monitor.
Yeah, yeah, getting the tanks hot will build up critical pressure. They'll cool, he thinks to himself.
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Post by Steel on Apr 10, 2004 16:13:38 GMT -5
Manae smirks as he sees the Regolith begin to pull around his suit. As soon as it's past him, he opens his thrusters, boosting off at full output and out of any immediate danger, bathing his opponent in super-heated gases. A few rounds scraped his backpack, but that's not a problem.
A few red lights glare on his monitor.Yeah, yeah, getting the tanks hot will build up critical pressure. They'll cool, he thinks to himself. Steel however, quickly gave chase and fired his boosters to follow behind Manae. While manae was boosting with Steel now catching up, Steel opens up with his head vulcans with another long burst at the targetted fuel-tanks on Manae.
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